Where Can you Open Carry, And Where Can't You?

[mystica]

Please keep in mind that coming from California is cause for suspicion, but there are obvious exceptions when the person moves for the right reasons.  Moving for a job is not one of those exceptions.  And someone who identifies with the "Democratic" party is fair game for a thrashing.
 

Can't find the original post. Assume it was deleted for content. With apologies for knowingly continuing a thread off-topic, I want to say I'm glad a few of you spoke up in this instance. Wouldn't want to be left thinking that "right" reasons" are dictated or that everyone from California, who identifies with the "democratic" party, or has blond hair is shunned from this forum or the FSW group. People are people, not labels, parties or locations. We have so much more in common than our irrational brains allow. And knowing so makes productive discourse more likely. Thanks for all the interesting discussion. Tho' I don't often participate, I appreciate the lively and thoughtful dynamic. You too rhodges 

[MichaelNotMike]

Wouldn't want to be left thinking that "right" reasons" are dictated or that everyone from California, who identifies with the "democratic" party, or has blond hair is shunned from this forum or the FSW group.

My wife and I moved to Wyoming a year and a half ago from Los Angeles, and we love it here. I used to vote Democrat. I've met many of the people on this forum in person and all but one has been kind to me. And my blond hair has never come up as an issue.
 

MWD

[FDNYLiberty]

Blew my mind, especially in light of the fact that three weeks earlier, my stepson had been pulled over in Orange County California for rolling a stop sign and had GUNS POINTED AT HIS HEAD, BEEN THROWN TO THE GROUND AND HANDCUFFED, AND DETAINED FOR 45 MINUTES because he had AN UNOPENED SPAM CAN OF MOSIN AMMO IN HIS TRUCK. He had no weapons, no drugs, just ammo. Cops said it was "armor piercing" and thus "illegal" and yelled at him until their watch commander told them to let him go.

MWD

No THAT blows my mind! Even so, it is unsurprising. Same thing would probably have happened to him back here in NY City. 

[Paul Bonneau]

At the end of that last clip, Neema says it is illegal to carry in schools and government buildings. With OC, that is not true, unless I am mistaken.

As to voting Democrat, or whatever, I just found a nice quote from H.L. Mencken:
In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for. As for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican.

 

Unfortunately I am a Republican. I will have to fix that next time I get in the county courthouse.

[mystica]

At the end of that last clip, Neema says it is illegal to carry in schools and government buildings. With OC, that is not true, unless I am mistaken.

As to voting Democrat, or whatever, I just found a nice quote from H.L. Mencken:
In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for. As for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican.

 

Unfortunately I am a Republican. I will have to fix that next time I get in the county courthouse.

Ha, ha. Mencken was a witty wonder. He also wrote:
..."A good politician is quite as unthinkable as an honest burglar." This I continue to hope he will be proved wrong....
   
..."All government, of course, is against liberty."

..."I believe in only one thing: liberty; but I do not believe in liberty enough to want to force it upon anyone." (I think he'd be happy in the company of the FSW)

...And some sad commentary on democracy.

At risk of forever being a thread-breaker, the following might be a good reference for CC and OC if it's not already on your go-to list:

    http://www.handgunlaw.us/
    http://packing4life.com/

Packing.org used to be a good site, but I guess it's not maintained now.

Here's the Wyoming application of the www.handgunlaw.us code re: off-limit places even with a Permit/License:

Last Updated: 1/1/11
www.handgunlaw.us
Wyoming Code 6-8-104. Wearing or Carrying Concealed Weapons; Penalties; Exceptions; Permits.
(t)(i) Any facility used primarily for law enforcement operations or administration without the written consent of the chief administrator.
(t)(ii) Any detention facility, prison or jail.
(t)(iii) Any Courtroom.
(t)(iv) Any meeting of a government entity.
(t)(v) Any meeting of the legislature or a committee thereof.
(t)(vi) Any school, college or professional athletic event not related to firearms.
(t)(vii) Any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic liquor and malt beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to that purpose.
(t)(viii) Any place where persons are assembled for public worship, without the written consent of the chief administrator of that place.
(t)(ix) Any Elementary or Secondary School facility.
(t)(x) Any College or University facility without the written consent of the security service of the college or university.
(t)(xi) Any place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law or state law or regulation.

Apologies for any duplication of prior posts.

[MamaLiberty]

At the end of that last clip, Neema says it is illegal to carry in schools and government buildings. With OC, that is not true, unless I am mistaken.

Again, there is a vast difference between open carry and concealed carry. The only places in Wyoming where open carry is illegal is on Federal property, such as the post office or a Federal building. There is no Wyoming statute on the books regarding open carry. All FEDERAL gun laws apply to either OC or CC.

It is against FEDERAL law for anyone except an "only one" to carry either CC or OC into a government school. It's also a pretty dumb idea, given the current climate of things. A private school would be treated as any other private property, and the wishes of the owner would determine what and how you might carry.

You would not be welcome to carry either way into a jail or other detention facility unless you were employed there. Can't imaging why anyone would want to go there in the first place.

Just my 2 cents worth. 

[Paul Bonneau]

It is against FEDERAL law for anyone except an "only one" to carry either CC or OC into a government school.

I looked up info on the "gun free target rich school zones" act to see what the deal was. Susan, you are right, even OC is not allowed under federal law:

http://gunowners.org/fs9611.htm

Well, laws were made to be ignored, I guess!    (Make your own assessment of the risk, of course. But it seems to me, every person in this forum has broken this law multiple times...)

[Old Ironsights]

Until they put metal detectors and federal gestapo at the doors, CC is not "prohibited"...

OTOH, if you are STUPID about it... ya gets what ya gets.

[RaisedByWolves]

This thread has been quiet for some time, but I'll jump in here anyway. I live in Florida, and the gun laws are confusing to say the least. As far as I know (and I own and have read the "official" state firearms law handbook) open carry is not permitted. You can possess a handgun and carry it in your vehicle with the stipulation that it be "securely encased" in some manner. That could be in the glove box, in a gun bag, in a purse (zipped up), or in a tupperware container with the lid on. Basically as long as it's in something that prevents you from firing the weapon without first opening that something. Getting a concealed weapons permit simply entails taking a class and paying a fee. While this does make it easier for you to then purchase firearms from a licensed dealer and permit you to carry a weapon concealed on your person, it could actually be seen to restrict your possession of firearms in many ways. For example: if you do possess a CWP any weapon that you carry is now a deadly weapon and cannot be taken into a place where firearms are prohibited. So pepper spray and pocket knives are now in the same category as handguns because you have a CWP and are supposedly trained to operate a weapon. Anyway, as you can you see, it can get rather tricky here in Florida. But it seems that what you're saying here is that in WY open carry is legal and requires no permit. Correct?

[Old Ironsights]

... For example: if you do possess a CWP any weapon that you carry is now a deadly weapon and cannot be taken into a place where firearms are prohibited. So pepper spray and pocket knives are now in the same category as handguns because you have a CWP and are supposedly trained to operate a weapon. ...

I guess that means that, by "law" I am not allowed into any Courtroom in Florida since I am "trained" in lethal & less-lethal hand-to hand combat.

Cool.

If I'm not allowed near a court, I can't be tried by a jury of my peers, since none of them would be allowed in a courtroom either.

I win. 

[MamaLiberty]

Anyway, as you can you see, it can get rather tricky here in Florida. But it seems that what you're saying here is that in WY open carry is legal and requires no permit. Correct?

Yep... No permit required for OC (anybody legally eligible to own or touch a gun at all) or even CC for "residents." But nobody goes around shaking anyone down to find out, so that's mostly moot.
Sure sounds like a lot of good reasons to get out of Florida... 

[NorthGunner]

Hmmm....maybe it's time for Alan Korwin to expand his literary
offerings with a new volume, "Wyoming Gunowner's Guide".

Definitely couldn't hurt...

Yours In Liberty!
Steve Kristmann  aka Northgunner III

[RaisedByWolves]

Sorry to be repetitive, but I wanna get this all straight. So concealed carry is permitted for residents (who aren't otherwise prohibited of course) without any sort of permit?

Also, what's the process in WY for purchasing firearms? Background check, waiting period, etc?

[MamaLiberty]

Sorry to be repetitive, but I wanna get this all straight. So concealed carry is permitted for residents (who aren't otherwise prohibited of course) without any sort of permit?

Also, what's the process in WY for purchasing firearms? Background check, waiting period, etc?

Don't know of any other way to say this. Yes. CC is not "illegal" for any resident who isn't already a "prohibited person" for whatever reason. You MAY still get a "permit" if you insist on it... say you travel to other places where you still need one to be "legal." Federal laws all apply. You can buy guns at any FFL with the instant check and walk out of there with it if it clears. You can buy from a private party and it's nobody else's business.

[RaisedByWolves]

Sorry for making you repeat it. It just seemed too simple; I thought I must have overlooked something. So essentially there's no need for any sort of permit as long as you remain within the state. It seems too good to be true. I believe this calls for one of these >