Where Can you Open Carry, And Where Can't You?

[rhodges]

Let keep the topic on track please.

Okay, you started this thread and your comment is fair.  My opinions are best handled in private communications with the individual authors.
 

[FDNYLiberty]

Thanks rhodges.   

Can you (or anyone else comment or clarify on my last question about "...they are permitted carry and unloaded gun?"

[MichaelNotMike]

I'm no lawyer, but my understanding, and how I operate is this: you can open carry a loaded gun in Wyoming without a permit, except in places that guns are forbidden by federal law, or on private property where the owner or lease holder doesn't want you to open carry (like someone's house who doesn't like guns, or stores that don't permit guns and they have a sign or ask you to leave when they see your gun.)

MWD

[MichaelNotMike]

I should add to that list "places forbidden by state law" and "government buildings", though some of that's debatable, like someone pointed out about courthouses.

I personally wouldn't open carry in any state or local government building here, but I tend to not go into government buildings.

Curious, FDNYLiberty, is the idea of legal, hassle-free open carry of a loaded gun without a government "permission slip" (permit) mindblowing to you? It was to me when I lived in California. I even owned guns but had never heard of open carry until I read "You and the Police."
 

MWD

[jscottdavis04]

I remember being scared of seeing any gun. period. Even if a cop had one. Actually, in Canada, the cops are pretty mean, so I was scared of them even when they didn't have a gun! Remember that Polish guy who was murdered by the RCMP in Vancouver? Death by taser... how humane!

As far as OC in Wyoming goes, there's nothing prohibiting anyone from carrying a loaded gun with a round in the chamber. In Utah, they distinguish between loaded and round in the chamber. You need a CCW to do that there.

I think the toughest thing about OC in Wyoming, no matter where you are, is there are few places where even a handfull of people OC, so it's not like I can observe what other people do around here and do as the natives do... it not only makes it difficult to determine what is the best practice but also draws a lot of attention. I'm still a newbie at this, so sometimes it's a bit weird; but it's almost always good attention. Today I noticed a few people noticing, but it wasn't the scared "oh-my-gosh-he-has-a-gun" type of noticing. At Starbucks a guy even tried to strike up a conversation with me.

[MichaelNotMike]

10-4 to all that, Jefferson.

Unless someone's trying to make a statement, this formula from Mac works well:
black gun
black holster
black pants
black or dark colored shirt.

Hardly anyone will even notice your open carried gun, but it's fully legal in Wyoming, and many other states.

(Offer not valid in California, New York, or the District of Columbia.)

MWD

[MamaLiberty]

Unless someone's trying to make a statement, this formula from Mac works well:
black gun
black holster
black pants
black or dark colored shirt.

I'd look really silly in that get up! LOL I wear just whatever I feel like wearing and nobody cares. jscottdavis04, you come spend a week walking around town with me and you'll get over being nervous about it. I go absolutely everywhere but the post office carrying openly, and NOBODY cares. They may laugh all they like, but they don't object even when they notice. 

[Old Ironsights]

10-4 to all that, Jefferson.

Unless someone's trying to make a statement, this formula from Mac works well:
black gun
black holster
black pants
black or dark colored shirt.

Hardly anyone will even notice your open carried gun, but it's fully legal in Wyoming, and many other states.

(Offer not valid in California, New York, or the District of Columbia.)

MWD

Sounds like what I habitually wear (or wore) as a barista in Washington... especially when you add the goatee & tiny glasses. 

[MichaelNotMike]

Sounds like what I habitually wear (or wore) as a barista in Washington... especially when you add the goatee & tiny glasses. 

lol!

You didn't work at the 9:30 Club, did you?

MWD

[Old Ironsights]

Sounds like what I habitually wear (or wore) as a barista in Washington... especially when you add the goatee & tiny glasses. 

lol!

You didn't work at the 9:30 Club, did you?

MWD

Nah.  I worked in Spokane.  I was going to GU.

[MichaelNotMike]

Oh...I thought you meant Mordor-on-Potomac Washington.

[FDNYLiberty]

I should add to that list "places forbidden by state law" and "government buildings", though some of that's debatable, like someone pointed out about courthouses.

I personally wouldn't open carry in any state or local government building here, but I tend to not go into government buildings.

Curious, FDNYLiberty, is the idea of legal, hassle-free open carry of a loaded gun without a government "permission slip" (permit) mindblowing to you? It was to me when I lived in California. I even owned guns but had never heard of open carry until I read "You and the Police."
 

MWD

MWD: In answer to your question, the idea of  Open carry is not "mindblowing" to me. However, the idea of NOT being able to exercise your Freedom and Liberty to OC definitely is!  In socialist NY City you can not even own a rifle/shotgun without a permit - and good luck trying to get one. You can buy/own rifle/SG in surrounding areas of NYC, but forget about getting a handgun permit - takes over 9 mos. and then it can only be kept in house or used at a range. Forget about trying to get a CCW permit, unless you are a cop or a business owner who can "prove" the need for one.

On a note, it is only by hanging aroound with my buddy, LastNJConservative, that I have learned more about the laws and regulations (and especially in NJ where they are a joke) concerning firearms.  I discovered OpenCaryy.org and then asked my buddy more to clarify. He pointed to to BOSTON's Gun Bible (great book BTW).

[jscottdavis04]

Right now, I wear a black leather coat when I OC and my holster is also black, so part of me wonders if the reason I get so many double-takes is because they see something but they're not sure what! lol. I did have one person say, "Holy crap! You're carrying a gun! I thought it was a cellphone!" Then he laughed.

I almost always wear jeans and I usually have lighter-colored shirts, so in the warmer months it will be interesting to see if people don't make such a fuss about it when they can see right away that I'm OCing. I think most of the attention I get is because people are taking a second look to see if that was actually a gun or not. Most clerks and other people I deal with that have an opportunity to get a close-up look never say anything to me.

I've heard Mac talk about the all black "camo" for OCing before... it will be fun to experiment a bit and see what works best around here.

[MichaelNotMike]

  In socialist NY .....Forget about trying to get a CCW permit, unless you are a cop or a business owner who can "prove" the need for one.

In Los Angeles you more or less have to be a judge,a movie star or a diamond merchant to get a permit.

MWD

[MichaelNotMike]

....I get so many double-takes is because they see something but they're not sure what! lol. I did have one person say, "Holy crap! You're carrying a gun!....

I have gotten none of that in Casper. I don't know if it's the city or something about my "presentation."

I don't know if I told this experience on here, but it's a good one:

When DJ and I drive and I'm riding "shotgun", I have my snubbie in the open glove box in front of me, in plain view. (Would be much easier to get quickly from there sitting than in my pocket holster.) This summer we got pulled over for speeding inside town. Young officer, not cocky, said, "License and registration please." DJ hands him her license, I say, "Officer, before I reach into the glove box to get the registration I'd like to point out that...."

Officer says "I see the gun. Please just give me the registration...."

I reach under my gun, get the registration, hand it to officer. He goes back to his car, does a quick check, comes back. Hands DJ the license and registration and says "You were going nine miles over the speed limit. This is a dangerous part of the road, it's a beautiful day, and I'd hate to see you get in an accident. Have a good day and please drive slower." He leaves without giving us a ticket.

Blew my mind, especially in light of the fact that three weeks earlier, my stepson had been pulled over in Orange County California for rolling a stop sign and had GUNS POINTED AT HIS HEAD, BEEN THROWN TO THE GROUND AND HANDCUFFED, AND DETAINED FOR 45 MINUTES because he had AN UNOPENED SPAM CAN OF MOSIN AMMO IN HIS TRUCK. He had no weapons, no drugs, just ammo. Cops said it was "armor piercing" and thus "illegal" and yelled at him until their watch commander told them to let him go.

MWD