Great Quotes

[Scheherazade]

I thought a thread on great quotes would be good thing so here goes

"An excuse is the skin of a reason stuffed with a lie" Billy Sunday

"A government is a body  of people, Notably ungoverned." Shepherd Book (Firefly tv show episode 10 War Stories)

[rhodges]

"A dump is like Disneyland..."

"Except there are no rides..."

"And it's full of garbage."

[MamaLiberty]

The desire/compulsion to control the lives and property of others is the ROOT of all evil. It is the root of all aggression.

[Scheherazade]

I was watching Skip Heitzig's (Calvary Chapel of Albuquerque) series on the 10 commandments  on http://www.calvaryabq.org/ , specifically the ones from 9/23 and 9/30  2007 ( http://www.calvaryabq.org/teachings_search.asp?series=27 ) on the 6th commandment "Thou shalt not murder."  This was a very well done treatise on the commandments, by the way. (Links included in case anyone is interested.) He quoted:

Francis Schaefer "I am not a pacifist, because pacifism in this fallen world means that we desert people that deserve our greatest help."

[rhodges]

Pacifism seems to imply the rejection of violence. But that ignores the difference between aggressive violence and defensive violence. Anyone can condemn aggression. Who condemns defensive acts? How can any normal defensive action be wrong? (Obviously, negligent and stupid acts can be wrong.)

[MamaLiberty]

Pacifism seems to imply the rejection of violence. But that ignores the difference between aggressive violence and defensive violence. Anyone can condemn aggression. Who condemns defensive acts? How can any normal defensive action be wrong? (Obviously, negligent and stupid acts can be wrong.)

I don't think anyone here confuses aggression with the violence needed for self defense. Or the rational response to negligent and stupid acts. Or with pacifism.

The desire to control other people and their property is the root of all aggression - evil, including fraud. Theft is a direct act to control others...

Pacifism is actually extremely rare, and would only be valid if the person never, in any way, defended themselves. They usually are very happy to have the police or whoever commit the violence for them.

[Scheherazade]

Pacifism seems to imply the rejection of violence. But that ignores the difference between aggressive violence and defensive violence. Anyone can condemn aggression. Who condemns defensive acts? How can any normal defensive action be wrong? (Obviously, negligent and stupid acts can be wrong.)

Actually there are some Christian groups that hold an extreme pacifism stand. 7th day Adventists hold that stand and one of them became a war hero in WWII. His story is told in Hacksaw Ridge. During that war he never touched a gun, never killed anyone, but he saved more than 70 wounded men and carried them off that cliff top.  The Amish and the Mennonites also hold that pacifism. I actually know some Mennonites who would not defend themselves. It has been a topic of much discussion among some Christians I know. I like how the quote touches on what living in a fallen world can mean. Romans 12:18 says "If it is possible, as much as depends on you,  live peaceably with all men." This verse acknowledges that it is not always possible to do so. Many churches these days are posting armed guards or encouraging members to carry at church. I heard of a church that held (and paid for) a concealed carry class for any member it could get to show up and take the class.

[FlyingDevildog]

Who condemns defensive acts?

LEO's, the fed gov, to name a few

[Scheherazade]

Here's one on being wary of flattery:
"You can stroke a donkey on its belly and lay any burden on its back" Thomas Brooks (a Puritan writer)

[colonial shooter]

 “These are the times that try men’s souls; the summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of his country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph.”  Thomas Paine

[Scheherazade]

"An army of sheep led by a lion would defeat an army of lions led by a sheep." old Arab proverb
"The nose of the bulldog is slanted backwards so he can continue to breath without letting go." Winston Churchill
"Consider the postage stamp. Its usefulness consists in the ability to stick to something until it gets there." Josh Billings
"Worry gives a small thing a big shadow." old Swedish proverb
These were all in An Enemy Called Average by John Mason

"Those who complain about how bad they have it, have it good enough that they have time to complain." by my son

[Scheherazade]

"Modern kids, if they don't want to go to school, take a 'mental health day.' When we were kids, We'd lie about having a sore throat. I think lying is better. It lets a kid take personal responsibility for reality." Garrison Keillor Lake Wobegon

[rhodges]

Staying away from public school for "mental health" reasons does make sense.

Just today, I was thinking that modern kids would have no idea what a grease pencil is...

[Scheherazade]

“Nobody deserves to be praised for goodness unless he is strong enough to be bad, for any other goodness is usually merely inertia or lack of will-power.”
Francois de La Rochefoucauld

[Scheherazade]

"Never grow a wishbone where your backbone ought to be." Jenny Paddleford